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  Alteration in the German Watchtower about spousal physical abuse

  by slimboyfat in

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  i noticed that the german edition of the study watchtower for today didn't include the phrase about the husband "hitting" the sister.

  instead it just says that he became ferociously angry, which need not imply physical abuse.

  i wonder if the german translator altered it off his own back or was instructed, and how other language editions compare.

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  As I said in an erlier "Steve and Selma" thread, I don't recall the details, but I believe there was an instance in which the Italian translation committee was taken to task over their translated version of an English text.
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  Tomorrow's Watchtower Study: Steve hits Selma in North America... not South America

  by Alfred in

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  i started a thread a few days ago that probably went unnoticed for the most part (under "scandals & cover-ups") regarding steve hitting selma in tomorrow's wt study... i just wanted to recap it here for those who may have missed it.... the spanish version changes the story completely.... if you've read that paragraph 12 it basically says that steve hit selma as she tried to prove a point.

  selma then feels sorry for herself.. in the spanish version steve merely gets furious with her and she gets sad.. by the way, i just looked up the italian version... .

  selma ricorda una lezione che imparo dalla sorella che le conduceva lo studio.

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  I don't recall the details, but I believe there was an instance in which the Italian translation committee was taken to task over their translated version of an English text.
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  Do you have signature quote in your emails? What does it say?

  by Iamallcool in

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  Today is the Tomorrow I Dreaded Yesterday
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  Bro. Lett (Governing Body) borrowed illustration from an outspoken WT critic

  by fugue in

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  we're discussing this over on jwr:.

  http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.

  a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.

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  The GB trade in eccentricities; they apparently believe it humanizes them; it's all affectation, style in lieu of substance.
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  Is this $h!t Written for Idiots?

  by Yan Bibiyan in

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  like the warning given to.

  it comes from god through.

  "...they obeyed the warning that god had sent by means of angels".

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  " the GRAND PREACHING WORK takes precedence over and above ALL things..." except, of course, a 10:00 am donut and coffee at the local Starbucks.
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  Cedar's 'Why The Watch Tower Society Is Already In Decline"

  by Dogpatch in

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  why the watch tower society is already in decline.

  good article, cedars.. http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3236:why-the-watch-tower-society-is-already-in-decline&catid=31:governing-body&itemid=346.

  it's also on the front page of freeminds.org.

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  Here's a minority opinion of Knorr: Hardly a spiritual visionary, he was a pragmatist who harbored his own doubts about foundational doctines, notably 1914 --- Ray was on the money when he quoted NHK as syaing: "1914? I don't know; we'll wait and see," or something to that effect, lots of folks I know heard him voice such sentiments informally, in social settings; that's an attitude many, if not most of the Bethel family shared -- myself included.

  He was, as Randy and others descirbed, mean-spirited and vindictive, but he was willing to overlook someone's misgivings about doctrine or chronology, etc. as long as they didn't publicize or promote them outside of Bethel's precincts, especially if he favored the person, or considered him of too much usefulness to sacrifice on the altar of orhodoxy.

  His -- and Freddy's -- opposition to the Governing Body arrangement was also an open secret at Bethel -- he said more than once at the breakfast table, that the changeovert to the GB would occur "over my dead body;" prophetic words indeed.
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  1966 Book : Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God

  by binadub in

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  somewhat of a turning point occurred for me in 1966 when life everlasting in freedom of the sons of god book was released at the assemblies that year.

  this you may know was the book that calculated 1975 would end 6000 years of humanity on earth possibly leaving the "thousand years" of revelation to complete the 7000-year "creative day.

  " jehovah's witnesses jumped on this implication as "new light" with enormous enthusiasm.

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  ... In one way, this little excerpt shows how far we've progressed since those those pre-JWN days; were anything so outlandish to be published today, the WT writer would be taken to task - lampooned -- in a heartbeat -- on this forum and others.
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  Draconian Rules for Attending "Special Convention"

  by BluesBrother in

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  british dubs are invited to attend a special convention next summer in dublin , irish republic.

  o k, this kind of trip has been done many times before.

  however i have never seen such a crude and rigid set of rules that would apply to their own people going on a trip, at their own expense of course.

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  And just who is this Anthony Morris and what distinguishes him from any other mannequin draped in a expensive suit, tie and fancy shoes? What qualifies him as a visionary spiritual leader? There's a pervasive odor emanating from this stinking pile of crap
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  are jw ashamed of the ot ?

  by mP in

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  whenever i talk to a jw when i rarely see one i bri g up the laws in the ot, like raping of virgins in deut being ok and forced to marry the rapist.

  it seems they just are not aware of these laws or any in depth the history or customs of the ancient jews.

  is the wts ashamed of the ot and the truth about the jews ?.

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  hardly.... they're neo-Judaizers... just check out Blondie's WT summaries and you'll see how often she points out their preference for employing OT over NT examples in their study articles.
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  Absurd WT Control in April 2012 KM

  by LostGeneration in

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  yeah in the section on attending the convention, you will find this gem:.

  "therefore, we should give attention to our dress and grooming while in the convention city, including when we check in at the hotel.

  arriving in shorts and a t-shirt would not reflect dignity.".

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  Remember how they used to love to parade around their African and other distinctly ethnically diverse delegates in traditional native dress at the large conventions (The 1958 Yankee Stadium, for example)?